Life of a Nasibi seems to have only one agenda, and that is, how to deceive others. Let us see another example

Nasibi website wrote in one of their articles

 

We start with two authentic ones then we mention others.

 From Musannaf ibn abi Shaybah:

 حَدَّثَنَا زَيْدُ بْنُ الْحُبَابِ، قَالَ: ثنا الْقَاسِمُ بْنُ مَعْنٍ، عَنْ جَعْفَرٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، أَنَّ عُمَرَ، أَرَادَ أَنْ يَفْرِضَ لِلنَّاسِ، وَكَانَ رَأْيُهُ خَيْرًا مِنْ رَأْيِهِمْ، فَقَالُوا: ابْدَأْ بِنَفْسِكَ، فَقَالَ: «لَا، فَبَدَأَ بِالْأَقْرَبِ فَالْأَقْرَبِ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ،» فَفَرَضَ لِلْعَبَّاسِ ثُمَّ عَلِيٍّ حَتَّى وَالَى بَيْنَ خَمْسِ قَبَائِلَ حَتَّى انْتَهَى إِلَى بَنِي عَدِيِّ بْنِ كَعْبٍ

 [Zayd bin al-Hubab told us (Thiqah Imam), al-Qassim bin Ma`n told us (Thiqah Imam Kufi), from Ja`far (al-Sadiq), from his father, that when `Umar wanted to distribute among the people, and he was the best of them in opinion, they said: “Begin with yourself.” So he said: “No, I begin with those closest to the Prophet (saw).” So he distributed to al-`Abbas then to `Ali the Khums and continued to do so for every tribe until he ended with bani `Adi bin Ka`b.]

 حَدَّثَنَا وَكِيعٌ، قَالَ ثنا سُفْيَانُ، عَنْ جَعْفَرٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ: لَمَّا وَضَعَ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ الدَّوَاوِينَ اسْتَشَارَ النَّاسَ، فَقَالَ: «بِمِنْ أَبْدَأُ؟» قَالَ: ابْدَأْ بِنَفْسِكَ؟ قَالَ: «لَا، وَلَكِنِّي أَبْدَأُ بِالْأَقْرَبِ فَالْأَقْرَبِ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، فَبَدَأَ بِهِمْ»

[Waki` told us (Thiqah Imam), Suffiyan told us (Thiqah Imam), from Ja`far, from his father, that he said: When `Umar was establishing the Diwans, he consulted the people. He asked: “With whom do I begin?” They said: “Begin with yourself?” He said: “No, but I shall begin with those closest to the Prophet (saw).” So he began with them.]

I have quoted just first two since they claimed “Authenticity” for these ones.

However, I just want to ask them:-

What is YOUR Standard of Authenticity?

It cannot be Shia Standard of Authenticity since the book mentioned is a SUNNI one. And ,Therefore, it cannot be used to argue with a Shia in the first place.

And if it is Salafi one, then why is this chain not being rejected on the basis of BREAK???

Just because it suits their desires???

This is because the Prime Narrator is Imam Mohammad Baqir (asws). And Dhabi writes for him

 وُلد سنة ست وخمسين 

He was born in year 56

And Umar died in Year 23 hijri as mentioned by Ibn Katheer in Al-Bidaya, (urdu version), 7/186

I have no issue if they say that

Now Salafis have started accepting such chains.

Because even in that case, the narration cannot be used to argue with a Shia since the book is a Sunni one. But atleast it will break & shatter their own  rules of Rijal & Hadeeth.

 

 

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