{english translation of this thread of brother syed hasni}
this is a known fact that the glory of kaaba is more than that of bait-ul-maqdis, and the narrations in the glory of kaaba are present in huge number in islamic books; the entire army of abraha got destroyed due to his attempt of its disgrace; and so it is proven that it is the most glorious; so this takes us to the point about the glory of the one who would be born in this place; researchers of islam said that this was the glory of imam ali asws which was given by allah;
but this is the religion of nawasib to have grudge for imam ali asws; and so they have to negate this; and recently wahabi scholar molvi ishaq rejected this in his friday sermon; so we will negate him; but first we see what he said
he said:-
and then he quoted the glories of hakim and that is not something we are going to talk about
let us bring our proofs
FIRST PROOF
hakim writes in his mustadarak
“mus’ab made a presumption in the last saying because it is proven with mutawatir narrations that fatima bint asad gave birth to imam ali in kaaba”
[mustadarak, imam hakim, vol 4, page197, printed pakistan]
IMPORTANT POINT:-
hakim negated mus’ab that he made an error here that there was no one else born in kaaba apart from hakim bin hazm; though it is proven with mutawatir narration that imam ali asws was also born here; but since he had to negate saying of mus’ab;
that is why he talked of it here; and did not talk of it in the chapter of fadail of imam ali asws; and this was the best place for rejecting him as well; keep in mind that hakim is accepted as a great scholar by both sunnis as well as salafis
ACCEPTANCE OF DHABI:-
dhabi mentioned this saying in his book, and so it is correct as per him as well that it is mutawatir fact
[talkess mustadarak, dhabi, vol 4, page 197, foot note 5, printed pakistan]
SECOND PROOF
mullah ali qari writes in his book “sharh-ush-shifa:-
it is written in mustadarak imam hakim that mola ali was born in kaaba
[sharh-ush-shifa, vol 1, page 327, printed beirut]
he did not object to the saying of hakim regarding its tawatur, rather quoted him; thus, showing his acceptance
THIRD PROOF:-
ibn isbagh maliki writes in his book
hazrat ali was born in month of rajab 13, in city of mecca, inside kaaba; apart from him, no one else was born there and this is your glory
[al fasol ul mohma, ibn sabagh maliki, page 29, printed beirut]
4th PROOF:-
allam hasan bin momin shablanji writes:-
ali is cousin of holy prophet asws, and he is unleashed sword; he was born in the year 30 of aam-ul-feel, on day of friday; 13 rajab; inside kaaba, and none was born there before you
[noor ul absar, shablanji, page 183, beirut]
5th PROOF:-
shah wali ullah writes
those glories which appeared at the time of birth of imam ali asws, one of them is that he was born in kaaba, hakim said that it is proven with mutawatir narration and there is no doubt that his mother gave him birth inside kaaba
[izala tul khulafa, vol 4, page 299, printed beirut]
similarly he writes in another book
his glories are numerous, he is the first hashmi whose mother was also hashmi; and he was born in kaaba, and this is a glory which none shared before him
[qura tul a’neen ba tafdel sheikhain; page 138, printed delhi]
6th PROOF:-
nawab siddiq hasan khan bhopali says:-
discussion of syed ali, cousin of prophet asws, sword of allah, the one who showed strange things; powerful, he was born inside mecca in bait-ullah; none was born before him inside baitullah
[takreem ul momineen bataween manaqib khulafa rashideen; nawab siddiq, page 99, printed lahore]
in the same way, he mentioned this in the book, TAQSAR JANOOD UL AHRAR, page 9, printed bhopal.
7th PROOF
Mulla jami said
“imam ali asws was born in mecca, and according to some, he was born in kaaba”
[shawahid un nabuwa, jami, page 280, printed pakistan]
8th PROOF:-
masoodi writes in his book
ali was born inside kaaba
[marooj ud dhahab; masoodi, vol 2, page 311, printed beirut]
9th PROOF
abdur rehman safoori shafai says
imam ali was born in mecca and this glory was kept specifically for him by allah
[nuzha tul majalis, vol 2, page 404, printed pakistan]
10th PROOF:-
shah abdul haq mohadith dehlvi says:-
mohadatheen and historians have said that mola ali asws was born inside kaaba
[madarij un nabuwat, abdul haq dehlvi, vol 2, page 531, printed pakistan]
11th PROOF
allama ganji shafai has accepted this in his book as well
[kifaya tul talib; ganji shafai; page 407; printed iran]
12th PROOF:-
sibt ibn joozi writes in his book:-
it is narrated that fatima bint asad was dong tawaf of kaaba when ali asws was in her womb; she got labor pains; so the wall opened up, and she entered; and ali asws was born there
[tazkira tul khawas; sibt ibn joozi; page 30; printed najaf, iraq]
we are just limiting ourselves to 12 references; otherwise there are plenty of other references which have not only mentioned this, rather counted this as a glory of mola ali asws; if someone is interested in reading more, he should refer to the book “qibla-tul-arwah fi qiba-tul-ashbah tazkira wiladat syedna ali ul murtada” here is the title page of this book
DOUBTS CASTED BY MOLVI ISHAQ AND ITS REPLY
NO. 1:-
he said that only hakim was born in kaaba, and it is not shared by anyone else
REPLY
we have already proven it with PROOFS that there is none other who was born in kaaba apart from imam ali asws; as for hakim bin hazim, it is a story created by nawasib so that the glory of imam ali asws can be nullified; though great sunni scholars have negated it.
hakim in his mustadarak and dhabi in his talkhes have negated birth of hakem inside kaaba; and said that birth of imam ali is with tawatur; so, as per hakim, his birth is a incorrect.
mother of hakem gave him birth in kaaba; hafiz abu naeed has narrated a lengthy narration in this regard, but there is rooh bin salah in that; and hafiz addi has weakened him
[tazkira tul khawas; sibt ibn joozi; page 30, printed najaf iraq]
the first one to propagate this story was zubair bin bukar, and his family was known for his grudge for imam ali and his progeny; and even he was appointed to teach mutawakil abbasi and his children dut to his hatred for ahlubait; and on this ground of his enemity, mutawakil appointed him governor of mecca
so, this takes us to the point that this is all a fabrication that hakem was born in kaaba
NO. 2
he said that if this was an honor, then holy prophet asws would also have his birth in kaaba
REPLY
this is his presumption ; and this does not affect the glory of holy prophet asws; martyrs are not given last bath; but prophets are given; and the scholars have said that partial glory does not affect total glory; birth in kaaba is one of the characteristics of mola ali asws
NO. 3
molvi said that ibn hajar has said that only birth of hakim has been proven; and rest are daif
REPLY
first of all, we have already said that story of birth of hakem is a fabrication; and we have proven it from sunni scholars; where as sunni scholars have termed it MUTAWATIR that imam ali asws was born in kaaba; and this is said by hakim, dhabi, shah wali ullah; and even molvi ishaq started his speech with that shah wali ullah proved it mutawatir.
and the rule of hadeeth is that if some thing is termed mutawatir, that weakness of chain does not harm it; and it is also rule of hadeeth that those who negate mutawatir, they are idiots
even if it is considered to be daif; those who have knowledge know that being daif does not mean fabrication; and also, in relation to fadail, even daif narrations are accepted; where as birth of mola ali has been termed mutawatir
AN IMPORTANT ISSUE:-
we have already given so many references for the birth of imam ali asws; and even showed from sunni books that it is claimed to be mutawatir; can molvi ishaq show us any sunni book where any sunni scholar has claimed that it is mutawatir that mother of hakem gave him birth in kaaba? we are sure that he cannot do so……
but still if a person shuts his eyes; and claims “i cannot see”; we can not treat him.
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